I was very impressed with the technical merits of Shrek 2's animation. There's one slo-mo moment very early on where Prince Charming tosses his head, that seems filmed in slo-mo specifically to show off the amazing rendering of every strand of his hair. Truly impressive. The traveling sequences on the journey to Far Far Away also feature some fantastic stuff.
More importantly, I laughed. A lot.
There are lots of quick homages in this film-- so many, I'm sure I missed some (IMDB says there's a Spiderman reference, for instance, but I completely missed it). Favorites: Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Iron Giant-- the latter particularly because only about .01% of this movie's audience will get it, and they did it anyway!
Quibbles about the retread nature of the plot aside-- didn't we already do the "It's OK to just be ourselves" spiritual journey the first time around?-- I had a fun time, and I'm already eager for Shrek 3.
Posted by Peter at May 19, 2004 02:23 AMWhat was your opinion on the first one? I was pretty underwhelmed by the 'humor' of the first, and planned on skipping the second one altogether. If you enjoyed the first one, then I figure I can safely ignore your comments on the second! :)
Posted by: Jake on May 21, 2004 03:40 PMI liked the first Shrek. I thought the Disneyland sendup was terrific and the script was full of great stuff. Part of the fun of Shrek 2 is playing "Spot the Homage" as the film references fly by. If you didn't like the first film-- good God man, have you no soul?-- I can't imagine that you'll enjoy this one either.
Posted by: Peter on May 21, 2004 03:56 PMJesus, Jake. First you say you're impressed with 'The Hulk' in your blog, and now you say you didn't like 'Shrek'. Did someone come by and replace your taste buds? :)
Posted by: Nathan Beeler on May 21, 2004 07:14 PMThe Spiderman homage was the upside-down kiss near the beginning (Shrek is caught in a snare, Fiona beats up the ambushers, they kiss).
I don't think it was an homage, but the bit with the mermaid was my favorite. :)
Posted by: Geoff on May 21, 2004 09:36 PMVery impressive, funny sequel. Especially impressed by Puss-in-Boots, but that's just me.
Posted by: Matt J. on May 23, 2004 10:50 AMwhats the iron giant reference? I have seen both movies and must have missed it. The upside down kiss where fiona wipes of the mud that is covering shrek's face like a mask.
Posted by: stuff on May 23, 2004 03:15 PMThe Iron Giant reference is when the head of Mongo (the giant gingerbread man) starts to sink underwater, his last words are "Be good." Those are also the last words of the Iron Giant.
Posted by: Peter on May 23, 2004 03:23 PMThe mermaid scene was an homage to "From Here to Eternity", or at least the kiss with the waves crashing over them was. My favorite part of that scene was when the mermaid is tossed into the water, sharks leap up to attack her. Is that another Disney dig? Dreamworks' next animated flick is about sharks.
Posted by: Krista on May 24, 2004 06:10 AMWhile I thought the movie was generally excellent, given how clever the script was in general I wish the writers had thought of a clever way to cover the giant gaping plot hole.
Posted by: Dan Blum on May 24, 2004 07:55 AMWhich is...?
Posted by: Peter on May 24, 2004 09:08 AMHoly crap! Now I know what it feels like to be a reviewer quoted out of context!! Regarding The Hulk, I said that I was "sorta impressed" and also said that "[The Hulk] was, by no means, a perfect movie (or even near perfect in my opinion)."
As for Shrek, it didn't seem all that clever (like I had been led to believe). The animation was nice, but hit to miss ratio was WAY to high for me ("Do you know the muffin man?" -- ugh).
Posted by: Jake on May 24, 2004 09:28 AMThe plot hole is that Pinocchio and Gingerbread and Co. are watching the mirror in the swamp, and then later the same day are in Far Far Away, which has been established earlier in the movie as being hundreds of miles away.
Of course given the milieu one can come up with a magical explanation for this, but it would have been nice if they had taken a minute or so to actually show it.
A related hole is the whole thing with the muffin man, but I guess we can assume that every town has a muffin man on Drury Lane.
Posted by: Dan Blum on May 25, 2004 08:22 AMAh yes, I had noticed the instantanous travel issue also. Hard not to, when the movie went out of its way to show that Far Far Away was indeed far, far away. As for the Muffin Man, it was never established what kingdom Drury Lane was in. Logic suggests it was in Fahrquad's kingdom, but logic has little place in Shrek.
Posted by: Peter on May 25, 2004 09:07 AMi would like to try your games for childern sherik2
Posted by: maidie flenard on May 25, 2004 04:26 PMOkay, I could possibly, maybe see how someone wouldn't like Shrek, but you don't like the Gingerbread Interrogation scene?! C'MON!!! I know people with hearts of stone that nearly died laughing at that scene! How could anyone not love it?
Posted by: Erin on May 25, 2004 05:29 PMAlso, no one seems to have noticed this, but the mermaid scene is also a Disney dig, but not because of the sharks. The mermaid looks curiously like Ariel from The Little Mermaid, the first in a long line of Disney's annual animated releases.
And as far as Disney digs go, my favorite was the dancing furniture scene.
Posted by: Erin on May 25, 2004 05:37 PMOh, my god. How could I have not heard that the big dumb giant's name is Mongo? Can that become my new favorite reference, even if I didn't catch it at the time? Damn my ears.
I did quote you out of context, Jake. My apologies.
Posted by: Nathan Beeler on May 29, 2004 01:10 PMActually, Mongo saying "be good" is in reference to the end of ET. There are so friggin many call-backs in that movie I'm not sure I got all of them. Can you believe they put a "Spinal Tap" poster in the backround of Fiona and Shrek's fight? But Puss in Boots remains my favorite character of all time. Esp. when the cops find his catnip. Nothing can own that scene... I think. Just look at the Shrek 2 Trivia website for most of the references.
Posted by: Nicole on June 21, 2004 01:04 PMPeter -- Did you catch Emre Yilmaz's name in the credits?
Posted by: Robin on June 24, 2004 02:50 PMWhy do we have to critisize everything? It's not like this movie documenting someone's life and leaving out serious information. It's Shrek, who cares if we don't know how the giant gingerbread man was made...The fact is...He was made. Who cares if the magical creatures travelled hundreds of miles in a couple of hours, if we want to get technical, why the hell is Shrek the main character, he's an Ogre! Ogres aren't real!
Some people enjoyed it, some didn't. Let's all move on with our lives (and watch it over and over again ~_^)
Posted by: Jackie on December 8, 2005 10:03 PM